tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post2134556046468923641..comments2024-02-20T15:17:48.594+11:00Comments on A.E.Brain: You've got to be Crazy BabyZoe Brainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-8257613295965517472009-06-09T16:44:26.558+10:002009-06-09T16:44:26.558+10:00(Okay, it looked like I double-posted so I deleted...(Okay, it looked like I double-posted so I deleted the first...anyway...)<br /><br />Yikes. One could make a career of pathologizing HIS motives. (My next theory is he was intentionally vague to mislead unsuspecting folks like myself.) Hopefully the APA will recognize him for what he is.<br /><br />On the bright side, I'm pleased to find myself mistaken rather in the company of hysterics :)Emy L. Nostihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17695055570935360660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-59728501498620084772009-06-08T19:27:48.585+10:002009-06-08T19:27:48.585+10:00ELN - without extensive evidence to the contrary, ...ELN - without extensive evidence to the contrary, your explanation is by far the most plausible and sensible one. It's one I would in general adopt, dismissing the more extreme interpretations as mere hysteria.<br /><br />Unfortunately.... such extensive evidence exists.<br /><br />Please search my blog using the key "Blanchard". Or look <a href="http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/ray-blanchard.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-82236035699246047792009-06-08T14:17:51.458+10:002009-06-08T14:17:51.458+10:00I have not read his work, but it seems like this c...I have not read his work, but it seems like this could be just an incredibly poor way of explaining what he's trying to accomplish.<br /><br />Is it possible he means this:<br />Precopulatory actions cover just about any type of foreplay, including role-playing, etc., so long as the role playing is not the sole object of arousal/sexual satisfaction; so long as intercourse is the preferred outcome. And by preferred, this would also mean masturbation to thoughts of this foreplay, so long as it is understood that the most preferable end to the fantasy would be intercourse, is also normal. (He seems to forget that people, including children, often stimulate themselves just because they feel good...)<br /><br />Similarly, interest in a phenotypically abnormal person is also okay, so long as it is not interest BECAUSE of that abnormality. It's okay to desire a transsexual so long as it is not just because you find transsexuality arousing. (One must assume the main reason he doesn't include gays in his redefinition is because that within the confines of the psychiatric field, that battle has been fought and lost by people of his thinking.)<br /><br />What I recall about fetishes is that people fixate on shoes or amputations or what have you so it becomes the primary sexual goal/object, in place of sex itself.<br /><br />Furthermore, assuming he's fairly closeminded and ignorant of the historical flux of beauty standards, you can at least hypothesize where he's coming from on the phenotypically normal statement. He probably meant that while being a normal, virile-looking male or a woman who looks healthy and well suited for childbearing is an evolutionary cue that should arouse sexual interest, sexual interest in a physical aspect that does not indicate reproductive fitness (such as being an emaciated bleached out model with no hips or ass, for example) is abnormal. <br /><br />Within this context, I think it's possible to see that he wasn't intending to pathologize damn near everyone who masturbates or finds a rescue scenario stimulating. (Sorry if I'm not explaining myself well; I'm pretty tired.)<br /><br />Either way, individuals who are, *ahem*, fixated on rigid interpretations of normality irritate me. And you damn well better get the wording correct if you want to change the DSM's/psychological and psychiatric profession's/legal system's entire interpretation of normal sexuality. Regardless, I find the idea that enough people would take this guy seriously laughable. His statement is imprecise, illogical (assuming he really thinks homosexuality is normal), and careless.ELNhttp://addendumb.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-76484884311532079822009-05-08T21:04:00.000+10:002009-05-08T21:04:00.000+10:00SAD - I was going to pass on that one - there's li...SAD - I was going to pass on that one - there's little point when you're comment no #300 and something.<br /><br />But I cut'n'pasted a reply. <br /><br />Nica - Jurisdiction would be a nightmare. Blogger is hosted in the US, I'm in Australia, and Zucker's in Canada. The costs of initiating litigation would be immense. Just serving notices on the responsible parties would be nigh impossible.<br /><br />I also have access to the postgrad legal service at the ANU, and the ANU Law School would love to take on such a case.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-70305208887525779382009-05-08T13:38:00.000+10:002009-05-08T13:38:00.000+10:00Zoe, are you prepared to be threatened by these pe...Zoe, are you prepared to be threatened by these people? I mean, if they were willing to threaten Prof. Conway...and your writing is likely to catch fire on the internet here, if it hasn't already. You have a lot of oomph to your writing, you know. I just don't want anything bad to happen to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-71252465774367312262009-05-08T12:35:00.000+10:002009-05-08T12:35:00.000+10:00Zoe Brain,
Care to join a discussion on the web s...Zoe Brain,<br /><br />Care to join a discussion on the web site of my local newspaper?<br /><br />http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/may/06/county-ordinance-targets-discrimination-against-ga/<br /><br />Look for posts by janiesavonsumptos devil s advocatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-81884493543240256952009-05-08T10:54:00.000+10:002009-05-08T10:54:00.000+10:00Bonze - now there's a distinction between a Paraph...Bonze - now there's a distinction between a Paraphilia and a Paraphiliac Disorder, the rules may change there.<br /><br />And a general remark:<br /><br />It's not enough that I be stigmatised as being either a gay sex maniac or a mentally ill pervert: now anyone who finds me attractive is stigmatised as being mentally ill too.<br /><br />I genuinely don't think this was Zucker and Blanchard's intent. They just don't realise what they're doing, nor how this will affect us. Or maybe they just don't care. As far as they're concerned, there's nothing actually wrong with being a gay sex maniac or a mentally ill pervert (as they've repeatedly said in the past), so why should anyone else think there is?<br /><br />It's easy to interpret their proposals in the worst possible light. I'm sure they don't mean them to be. I'm equally sure though that most people outside their Ivory towers will interpret them in that way. That's based on actual experience in the past, not a hypothetical fear.<br /><br />Blanchard has repeatedly and categorically supported SRS as the appropriate treatment for gay sex maniacs and mentally ill perverts. He just doesn't see that the voting public may not agree there. Or maybe he does... I won't try to second-guess him.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-34450200644414957222009-05-08T10:20:00.000+10:002009-05-08T10:20:00.000+10:00Unbelievable.
As far as the insanity plea goes, i...Unbelievable.<br /><br />As far as the insanity plea goes, it may not work but it will still cause havoc yet to be imagined. Allow a slight thread derail to make a point.<br /><br />It reminds me of a case in Idaho where a man was not convicted of a hate crime for pushing a young woman into a camp fire (and giving her severe burns) after calling making a 'Jews burn' joke.<br /><br />The reason? She wasn't actually Jewish. He just thought she was.<br /><br />So now in Idaho will victims of racial hate crimes have their ethnicity challenged in court and then have to prove it?<br /><br />Labeling everything a type of paraphilia will cause similiar legal havoc. Watch and see.Anonymous Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16510607142721839201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-30335795864958852442009-05-08T08:49:00.000+10:002009-05-08T08:49:00.000+10:00Zoe: "It also gives rapists a backdoor to plead a...Zoe: "It also gives rapists a backdoor to plead an insanity defence."<br /><br />Actually not... under the M'Naghten rule which applies in most US states, the defendant must "not know the nature and quality of the act or not know that it was wrong". Having a DSM diagnosis is necessary but not sufficient, and Antisocial Personality Disorder (sociopathy/psychopathy) and paraphilias do not qualify.<br /><br />Here in New York state the government is now categorizing sex offenders at the time of their release from prison and institutionalizing those they deem to be dangerous...bonzenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-62192394437546310522009-05-08T07:54:00.000+10:002009-05-08T07:54:00.000+10:00These definitions look suspiciously like they coul...These definitions look suspiciously like they could have been written by the pope himself.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421631766366799600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-66125466165487287072009-05-08T07:11:00.000+10:002009-05-08T07:11:00.000+10:00If these kinds of changes do go into the dsm and w...If these kinds of changes do go into the dsm and we have at-your-fingertip access to peoples' information on medical databases, social security databases, national security databases, how difficult would it be for all these newly defined crazies to be identified and...<br /><br />...help...someone is knocking at the door...they've got my arms...ammmmmmmzith...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-6864977733161868402009-05-07T23:01:00.000+10:002009-05-07T23:01:00.000+10:00His colleague at CAMH is the chair of the committe...His colleague at CAMH is the chair of the committee.<br /><br />He's possibly the single most powerful voice there.<br /><br />See the previous post on the subject of what they're doing with Transsexuality.<br /><br />And yes, it <B>does</B> pathologise masturbation. It also gives rapists a backdoor to plead an insanity defence.Zoe Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712045376060102538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-48458648843416391552009-05-07T22:07:00.000+10:002009-05-07T22:07:00.000+10:00Yea...just because one guy says it doesn't mean it...Yea...just because one guy says it doesn't mean it'll go in.animeghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05676113620095895642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-8243887526062510792009-05-07T21:56:00.000+10:002009-05-07T21:56:00.000+10:00Doesn't that also pathologise masturbation?
Any ...Doesn't that also pathologise masturbation? <br /><br />Any idea whether this clown has any sway, or whether he's considered a crank in the field?lauredhelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956045585913161846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5573426.post-52436779241752223352009-05-07T21:36:00.000+10:002009-05-07T21:36:00.000+10:00Wow...
I watched the movie Kinsey the other day. ...Wow...<br /><br />I watched the movie Kinsey the other day. And sure there are plenty of issues with some of his methodology...<br /><br />but their definitions seem seriously to be trying to roll back things to the pre-Kinsey 50's!<br /><br />With the sole, single, solitary, isolated example of homosexuality.<br /><br />Which seems clearly special-pleading because of the gay folk in the group.Battybattybatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030389503526882755noreply@blogger.com