Sunday, 25 October 2009

The Crazy Years

From Spider Robinson
"In 1939, the greatest science fiction writer who ever lived, Robert Anson Heinlein, produced one of the first of the many stunning innovations he was to bring to his field: he sat down and drew up a chart of the history of the future, for the next few thousand years...

"And in Heinlein's Future History chart, the last decades of the twentieth century--the ones he wrote abut and discussed as seldom as possible--were clearly and ominously marked: 'the Crazy Years.'

"I discussed this with him several times before his death in 1988. He had decided--half a century in advance--that a combination of information overload, overpopulation and Millenia Madness were going to drive our whole culture slug-nutty by the end of the century." pg. 4, "The Crazy Years: A Mission Statement"
From the (Right Wing) Free Republic :
An official announcement by the Obama administration disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. For several months, senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life. Dissatisfaction among powerful institutions such as the U.S. Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology.
It is to solidify atheistic beliefs among the sheeple.
Desperation has taken hold when the administration ‘lets it out’ that extraterrestrials are among us, order to divert attention from their screw-ups.
Yea no doubt that these so-called aliens will bring us a message about how we can save the earth from capitalism created global warming or climate change.

The left-wing base would be so thrilled to hear Obama and even Gore rush to the forefront in front of the United Nations to usher in a New Day of alien enlightenment for all of mankind.
A brick in the wall of denial for the rapture.
“It is to solidify atheistic beliefs among the sheeple.”

The most serious answer yet. Makes sense.

Still I spewed beer all over my keyboard reading most of the other posts so far.

But I appreciated that I got a serious response right off the bat.

Strange article.
There is an old paperback book titled Being...written by Michael Redfinn. It’s a story about Aliens visits, a half alien, half human that become a powerful world leader. There is a biblical part of the story too...the aliens are really satan and his minions that begin the tribulation. Find it and read it....its an ineresting scenario and a good read. What better way for satan to take over and cut across all cultural and religious barriers than to pose as a powerful extraterrestrial
Yes, I have seen good cases made for the possibility that the explanation for the disappearance of millions of people will be that beings from outer space came and took them away so that the real enlightened ones, the progressive people of the world, could finally have their utopia without primitive Jesus freaks standing in the way. Now it appears more and more likely as though that will, indeed, be the official "evidence" presented to the world for what will actually be the Rapture.

Now that we see that a big announcement may be imminent, that there may be an acknowledgment by "important officials" that, indeed, there is extraterrestrial life, and, of course, these beings are completely benign and only want to help mankind, Satan may be taking his deception to a new level.

Will UFOs Ride In To Save The Day?

The UFO Demon Connection

This announcement, if it turns out to be true, is yet another piece on the Bible prophecy chessboard that is being maneuvered into place.

If you are a person who knows Jesus Christ as your Savior, there has never been a more exciting time to be alive!
It looks as if they already may be.

Through Scripture, and Christ Himself, we know that the real power behind human governments are Satanic. Satan knows his fate, he knows the Bible and he knows when the time will get close for Jesus' return.

Governments will "get cracking on this" when the puppeteer directs them to.
Surprise, surprise,

they are behind the chip ID implant . . . that OThuga has had put in the health care bill—no care without the chip implant.

Can you spell MARK OF THE BEAST?

Walk on by . . . nothing here.
The Assoc. for Biblical Astronomy
is a Ministry of the Mantua Country Baptist Church
This site is devoted to the historical relationship between the Bible and astronomy. It assumes that whenever the two are at variance, it is always astronomy—that is, our "reading" of the "Book of Nature," not our reading of the Holy Bible—that is wrong. History bears consistent witness to the truth of that stance.
The Hamas Charter, Article 22 :
'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions - which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ... and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them having their finger in it.'
Comments on a petition by the Chicago Surrealist Movement to "Stop NASA from bombing the Moon" :
When I heard about this I was deeply disturbed-in shock in fact. I figured it must be a joke because the idea of it is so incredibly freakish. The desire to disrupt such a vital element of our universe shows just how tragic humanity has become. Let's not let this happen. The Moon belongs intact, and I certainly don't want the travesty to be hanging over my country's head.
I think it's ridiculous that most people are only just learning about this and some still have no clue. We should have been asked about this. The moon is not the property of nasa. We should all be able to have our say and I believe the majority would say this is absolutely stupid and unnecessary. Many cultures worship or hold a reverance for the moon and this is disrespectful to say the very least. The moon is a vital part of our life on earth, we should be protecting it not doing anything that may possibly cause it damage.
Since I was a little girl I have always felt a strong connection to our Moon, I found comfort, strength, and a strange sense being one with the Moon. Before bed each night I would stare with wonder at the bright silver globe that positioned herself as a silent guardian in the night sky, watching over us with her protective glow. Now, at 40 yrs of age, I still have that tradition of looking up at the Moon before sleeping, because, when you think about it, the Moon has always been there since the dawn of time, and even amidst an ever-changing world filled with violence, chaos, deceitfulness, devastating natural disasters, never-eding wars, and death, She has been the one constant in the lives of humans. Everything else has changed in one way or another, but not Her, not our Moon, she has remained the same for eons of time, and now, mankind has yet once again decided on an insanhe course that can only leave in its wake extreme, devastsing effects on our beloved Mother Earth and the human race that will be irreversable. Why are they doing this at all? So, why, in a time when we are all on the downside of a financial catastrophe, have over-populated countries, hungry, homeless people, and no where near enough money to solve the financial problems we are facing worldwide, why, are they going to waste billions of dollars to blow a hole in our Moon? The stupidity of mankind and their poor choices never fail to astonish me, and as for "our President Obama", what happen to his big talk about change? But then I guess we will all see a massive change worldwide when he allows the bombing of the Moon to actually occur. If you want to know wher Obabma stands inregards to his sympathy for the American peoples plight and the continued stability of the Universe and the Moon, just look into his eyes when he is speaking about love, peace and unity for all of mankind, the eyes belie his impassioned words. May the Goddess protect us all from this insanity. Love to you all.
"If the true intent of the LCROSS mission moon bombing is a hostile act by NASA against known extraterrestrial civilizations and settlements on the moon, then NASA and by extension the U.S. government are guilty of aggressive war which is the most serious of war crimes under the U.N. Charter and the Geneva Conventions, to which the U.S. is subject.
I dont believe, that any government of any country on planet Earth can think Moon belongs just to them and they can bomb it or do anything on it! Planet Moon is minimally the "property" of all governments on planet Earth, and also not just of people, but as well animals, plants and all life - as all Earth life depends on it! You disbalandce just a part of this harmony, and chain reactions of disaster after disastre will come. Stop to behave so egoistically and foolishly, please!
There are so many things that the moon has impact on. Once that changes there will be a reaction. PLEASE don't allow NASA to bomb the moon. Some things we just don't need to know.
I'd say Heinlein was right. I originally thought that the majority of the comments were in jest - but follow-ups indicate otherwise. From Is America Falling Off the Flat Earth?
Despite the unprecedented explosion of scientific knowledge that has occurred in recent decades and its pervasive impact on our lives, a 2004 National Science Board survey revealed that almost 30% of America’s adults do not know that Earth revolves around the sun, 22% do not know that the center of Earth is very hot, and over half do not know that electrons are smaller than atoms. Only half the population is aware that dinosaurs and humans never coexisted. Another poll indicated that at least 25% of American adults believe in astrology—no doubt more than believe in the principles of astronomy. And, according to a NASA survey, fully 15% of America’s adults do not believe that humans have gone to the moon.
From Answers in Genesis :
The high number of Australian university students who admitted in a poll that they accept the Bible’s account of creation as literally true has unsettled the poll-takers.

Up to one in every five first-year biology students said they believed the Genesis account of creation and rejected the theory of evolution.

Results of the Australian Institute of Biology poll were released in June. They revealed that 4,255 students at 17 universities responded to the survey on attitudes to creation and evolution. Of these, 535 said they believed ‘God created man pretty much in his present form at one time within the last 10,000 years.’

President of the biology institute, anti-creationist Professor Roger Kitching, said he was opposed to the book of Genesis’s ‘primitive mythology about life on earth’.

‘We can’t have science with mysticism built into it’, he said.

Of concern to Christians were the 43 per cent of students who said they believed life had arisen through evolution and that God had taken no part.

The Sydney Morning Herald, June 13, 1992.

The West Australian, June 23, 1992, p. 4.

A Gallup Poll in the United States last November found that 47 per cent of those surveyed believed God had created humans in their present form within the past 10,000 years.


RadarGrrl said...

Without knowing how much US news (or non-news) you get down there in Oz, I'm not sure how much you're really catching. But some of these groups really do believe the rot that they're spouting.

By the way, I thought A.C. Clarke was the greatest SF writer who ever lived. /me stirs pot...

Anonymous T-Girl said...

So being an atheist means we will automatically believe in aliens visiting earth?

Just because progressive leaders say so?

'Most serious answer yet?'

'Makes sense'?

Fail, Zoe.


Mike Licht said...

But why is NASA really seeking water on the Moon?


Nicole said...

It's concerned me for a while that it seems to me that it's us progressives that understand that we need to stop the population explosion, therefore we are mostly the ones that don't breed.

But it's the religious and those who continue to aspire to family expectations about the nuclear family, the house in the suburbs etc. that continue to breed, continue to burn fossil fuels and the quarter-acre block.

And when they breed, because they are religious conservative capitalists, they teach that to their kids.

And what's worse, they get to vote!

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous T-Girl

You are clear, that it is the person that Zoe is quoting that Fails Hard??

I thought it was obvious that Zoe is quoting fails here...


Laserlight said...

I find it amusing that the group of people who stereotypically profess to believe in evolution is also the group who are taking themselves out of the gene pool.

Anonymous T said...

My mistake, Skitt.

It wasn't completely clear to me, and i got a bit of a headache sorting through it.

But sorting through creationist fantasy always gives me a headache.

i apologize, Zoe.

But would you care to elaborate in anyway with your thoughts on all of this, beyond the one sentence i see that is your own?

Or is this one of those 'best brought up and then left alone' things?

Diplomacy is not my forte.

Zoe Brain said...

ATG - I have far too much respect for you to take offence at anything you might say. No need for an apology, obviously I wasn't clear enough in my writing.

It seems to me that ~1/3 of the population is... not understandable by me.

The 1/3 that believe Obama was born in Kenya. The 1/3 who believe "9/11 was an inside job". The 1/3 that think the world in 6000 years old. The 1/3 that think the Jews control everything. The 1/3 who don't believe humans have ever gone to the moon.

It's difficult not crediting Evolution when I'm examining how it works in my PhD, trying to fine-tune parameters such as population size and mutation rate to speed it up, but there may have been a Deist first cause. I can understand some people who think Humans are an exception to evolution, be it via a Black Monolith or otherwise - though I think if they studied other primates, they'd see the differences aren't that large. I think they're incorrect, but they're not barmy. Reasonable people can differ.

No, it's the ones who when confronted with a story like "Obama will announce First Contact next week" don't react with scepticism, but say it's the work of Satan, or a Communist plot. Or say that Bush used secret alien holographic technology and or satanic magic to cover up his planting of bombs at the Pentagon. Or who pass laws against "chemtrails" (Kucinich). Or say that 50,000 black prisoners were secretly executed and buried in the swamps in Louisiana during Katrina (Cynthia McKinney). Or say that Gays are a threat to humanity. (Too many to mention).

Left, Right, makes no difference.

I won't say where reasonable difference ends and insanity begins. I will say that I'm in favour of free speech - that bad ideas and factual inaccuracies should be fought not by banning them, but by competing with good ideas and factual accuracy.

But then, I've been banned from both Free Republic and Democratic Underground, and my friends include both the notorious Right-wing commentator Tim Blair, and the Marxist professor Norman Geras.

When I think someone else has part of the picture right, I don't care what label that opinion bears. And my own ideas should always be subject to challenge.

Anonymous said...


No problems. :-)


Christine said...

Obama's announcing aliens? COOL! 8-)

Maybe they can help us with our healthcare project! Maybe they can make me XX too :) No, i know.. maybe Zucker & Blanchard could get in league with the aliens and they could actually start turning results with their rediculous "repairative" "therapy" greater than ZERO, or maybe they could give us a space shuttle replacement that works... while they're at it, they could fix global warming, repair our crumbling infrastructure and find homes for all those people in Gitmo that they've discovered really didn't do anything wrong but that don't have homes anymore! Then they could take all the unemployed people off to their planet and give them nice posh high paying jobs and feed all the starving people.

This fixes everything!

Blondly yours,

Anonymous T-Girl said...

i can't comment on the social dynamics or political engines of Australia, or anywhere else for that matter. i'm completely ignorant of them.

The Unites States is another story, however.

Generally speaking, i have extreme difficulty taking anything seriously which proposes something that has so much evidential weight against it as to be considered all but intellectually perverse.

In my limited experience, i've come to believe that 'incorrect' would go hand in hand with 'barmy'.

But i admittedly have developed an aggressive view toward the absurd, of which creationism in any form would be considered.

On a side note, stereotypically progressive, educated people that i know do indeed remove themselves from the gene pool.

They get around the population problem and help solve it by adopting instead, rather than mindlessly breeding under some imaginary directive.

It's why i've completed adoption classes myself.

But first things first.

Imogen said...

If Scientology can teach us one thing, it's that some people wil believe literally anything they're told, no matter how insane. Unfortunately, critical thinking isn't something you're born with; you have to learn it. Ultimately I think it's a failure of education.

I really feel sorry for people like that, because they end up being victimized again and again by unethical people and companies.