When Google suggests your name. Try typing in "zoe br". I had no idea. Scary.
Thanks for this info to someone who is a a little sceptical about me, and whose opinion of me is less than complimentary. But who paid me the highest compliment I can think of, anyway, claiming that the pictures of me showed that either I must have had FFS (Facial Feminisation Surgery) or were photoshopped. Coming from her, I know that it wasn't something said just to make me feel good.
UPDATE : Thanks so much for all the e-mails and PMs of support on this one, and the concern over my feelings. My attitude is that since the person who called me a "waste of genetic material" has got some very fundamental misconceptions about the basic facts, that I can't value her opinions very highly. Nor do I consider her to be unreasonable. She's formed her opinions based on completely false premises, but I can see how her conclusions would be quite logical if their foundations even remotely resembled reality. Perhaps she was a little undiplomatic, that's all.
Thursday, 22 October 2009
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I would say that you should be proud of being already a part of Google's dictionary. So congratulations.
I don't know who this 'Andrea B' is, but talk about people with not enough to do.
Zoe has a cyber stalker
Cynthia Lee
Andrea B,
It seems that Zoe your still in deep denial of your transsexuality. You seem to want to claim intersex because you want to fabricate your own life history onto someone else.
It just seems to be that you can't escape your past when it catches up with you. Knowing full well that you were a male, that was married and have fathered a child prior to your SRS.
It doesn't surprise me that your so delusional and in very much denial of your transsexuality.
You seem to have a nasty habit of posting your name every where online and leaving a huge paper trail for people to follow and connect the dots.
If any of you have a half a brain left I would Google Zoe Brain's name and see what Zoe leaves behind.
And for Zoe, Quit being an intersex because you are not an intersex person. No intersex person I know of could ever father a child. Seek some serious counseling because your Lies are very damaging and everyone is starting to wise up to all the lies you wrote online.
Andrea B, if that's who you are, what is your fucking problem with Zoe? I know Zoe personally, and she's the real deal, no matter what you and your Raymondist friends want to think. Unlike you, neither she nor I need to hide behind an Anonymous post, either. Get a life!
Multiple Lengthy verbatim repeated repetitions of redundant duplicates, repetitively and redundantly repeated in multiple duplicates several times, are classed as spam.
The comments about them I deleted too, not that they weren't apposite.
Oh, and Nicky - please stop just parroting Andrea B. And signing her name.
JC
Give it up Zoe, Your not an intersex person. Everyone is wising up to the evidence in front of you. You are not an intersex person. Your a delusional transsexual in deep denial. Transsexualism exist, so move on and quit calling yourself an intersex person when people already are wising up to the mounting evidence against you.
For starters, Start googling Zoe's name and read every post Zoe has made from the very first one. Also, Ask how Zoe could afford to get a UK medic to Australia to sign some paper. Ask for the picture of the child she fathered prior to being put on those medication. Ask why is she hiding the fact that she was married in the UK and even ask the about the Ex wife she had before he became a she and left her. Ask about her supposed 5ARD or 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase deficiency dx because all those don't match with any known clinical signs she's claiming.
Basically, Zoe, you've been caught in your own web of lies and people are starting to wise up to all the lies you spun on the web. So give it up and admit your a transsexual.
Nick,
ROFL! You are posting on a site with eye-witnesses who saw it happen. Some have known Zoe for a long time.
UK marriage? Zoe was married in Sydney, I was a guest. Ex-wife? Carmel, Zoe's wife is still married to Zoe though the nature of the parnership has changed. They are bringing up their son togeter. Oh, and I see that son most of the times that I visit their house.
You are spouting nonsense. People are laughing at you. Now get some help.
Also, Ask how Zoe could afford to get a UK medic to Australia to sign some paper.
She doesn't have to, there is an Australian doctor authorised to sign for the UK authorities.
Ask for the picture of the child she fathered prior to being put on those medication.
Available on this site.
Ask why is she hiding the fact that she was married in the UK
She is not hiding this, because she was not married in the UK.
and even ask the about the Ex wife she had before he became a she and left her.
Zoe's partner is still part of Zoe's nuclear family.
Ask about her supposed 5ARD or 17-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase deficiency dx because all those don't match with any known clinical signs she's claiming.
Zoe has never claimed either of these diagnoses, she has instead used them as more common examples of the condition she has. (i.e. she has a condition "kind of like" 5ARD - a condition in which people assigned female at birth, naturally develop a male-like appearance at puberty - just in reverse. Or put another way, if you want to see an example of a condition that can cause someone-who-looks-mostly-female to naturally change to someone-who-looks-mostly-male then look up 5ARD.)
Just a shout-out to Nick and his cronies here: Here you endorse a defninition of Klinefelter's Syndrome that cites the reduced fertility associated with this intersex condition.
Reduced fertility, by definition, means some fertility, just not a lot... this would imply conception is possible, just more difficult than normal.
I'm genuinely unsure as to why Zoe's child is being used as an argument that she must not be intersex. Zoe has stated that it took 'technical help' for her to provide 1/2 the genetic meterial for a child. This actually supports Zoe being intersex, rather than detracting from the possibility.
SD
While I thank commenters for correcting Nick's many false statements (so lurkers don't get confused), I must ask that everyone desist from defending me.
Nick is not a Troll. He's ill. Trying to engage him is fruitless, he just repeats things he's made up or misunderstood, and ignores all evidence to the contrary. I'm not sure he even perceives what others are saying. It may even worsen his condition.
OK, he's picked on me as a target. But I'm probably one of the people least likely to be bothered by his writings. I'd rather he go after me than some who are more vulnerable.
He's also a fellow human being with an illness, who deserves help I cannot give. But I can at least not make things worse.
Saying someone is mentally ill or crazy is a common method of attack, a means of dirty fighting and disrespect in a debate. It is designed to hurt.
In this case though, it's literally true. We should have some human compassion. By all means correct his mis-statements of fact, and call him out on his sock-puppetry et al, but do so gently. He doesn't deserve scorn, unlike common-or-garden trolls.
Zoe,
The question is whether being gentle with him is good for him. I am not suggesting being abusive. But maybe the best thing anyone could do for him is get him to realize that something is wrong, that he has a disconnect with reality. Perhaps picking up by the scruff of the neck and shaking until you get his attention is what he needs.
Or maybe not, I really don't know.
AB5ARD
Why don't you do the Homework and start digging for those hard answers. Why don't you ask those hard tough answers. Such why can't Zoe get her Original UK Birth certificate to change to what she is right now.
"Zoe has never claimed either of these diagnoses, she has instead used them as more common examples of the condition she has. (i.e. she has a condition "kind of like" 5ARD - a condition in which people assigned female at birth, naturally develop a male-like appearance at puberty - just in reverse. Or put another way, if you want to see an example of a condition that can cause someone-who-looks-mostly-female to naturally change to someone-who-looks-mostly-male then look up 5ARD.)"
I hope you never ever meet someone else who has 5ARD or 17BHDD because they will never ever understand what you have. Oh and your Claims of having 5ARD like, one word BULLSHIT. You either have full blown 5ard or none at all. Their is no such thing as "kinda like"
As for Zoe, keep spinning your lies because some people are already wising up to you and know that your not an intersex and no intersex person I know of can father a child. People are wising up to the fact that your just a very deluded transsexual in deep denial.
So stop using other people's history to justify your own existence. Stop stealing other people's life experience and upbringing because you ain't no intersex and your very deluded person to begin with.
As for Lloyd, You can be a fool and believe all the lies and rumors that Zoe feeds into you or you can use what ever brain cells you have left to do some very hard detective work and find out what Zoe is really all about.
Here are some evidence from Zoe's internet paper trail.
http://tgnonsense.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/on-fear-and-hate/
http://letters.mobile.salon.com/mwt/feature/2009/07/07/xx_xy/view/index11.html
Nick,
I know Zoe personally you don't. If you are younger than thirty-four then I've known her longer than you've been alive. I'm an eye witness to all the things that you say didn't happen. I don't need her word, my eyes an ears are enough.
You don't think there wouldn't have been numerous eye-witnesses to this, do you?
It wasn't exactly easy to miss - for friends, for work colleagues etc etc.
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