Monday, 25 January 2010

Thought for Today

Nie Wieder.



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9 comments:

Bad hair days said...

I don't like it. It makes false claims about the holocaust which was ethnic cleansing, extended to so called unwelcome life like mentally disabled and people from the LGBT spectrum and not about religion and faith.
So while it is important to remind of the shoa and the holocaust its a shame to hijack it for, I assume, political reason by someone.

mythusmage said...

Bad Hair Day,

Were this my blog I would lecture you something vicious. But this is Zoe's blog, so I shall refrain. I will note that you expand on the definition of "obtuse" in a manner that causes wolverines to experience bowel emptying dread.

Anonymous said...

Genau!

Bad hair days said...

Mythusmage and Anonymous

So what you think was the killing of multible millions was about? Religion? The number of 6 million jews is well known, but obviously not how germans determed who a jew is. And forgotten are all the romas, mentally disabled and gay?

There where genocides with a agenda like this, but the german genocide was not one of it.

Zoe Brain said...

It was about Religion all right. Both Roosevelt's New Deal and the NSDAP's "reforms" were about National Socialism.

Such ideologies are indistinguishable from more conventional Religions.

But only one of them exterminated unbelievers. Jews, Poles, Gypsies, Communists, Gays, and other "enemies of the state". Those who did not conform.

Trying to explain all of that in the 20 words or so you have in a comic strip is like trying to explain the shape of the Earth.

You can say "the Earth is Spherical"... and be wrong. Because the approximation is that it's an oblate spheroid, with irregularities (mountains etc), then there's the distortion of space-time by rotation and mass-concentrations, then there's tectonics, and the fact that much of the core with the extreme mass densities is liquid, so the shape is not the same from millisecond to millisecond...

But saying "it's spherical" is better than saying "it's flat". It captures the essence.

mythusmage said...

BHD,

Wiley's point still stands, and it would stand whether he was talking about gays, gypsys, social-democrats, or Slavs. What the Nazis did was wrong, and we need to let our descendants know about it so maybe, just maybe, they'll oppose such things in the future. The fact he chose an elderly Jewish man to make his point makes no damn difference.

You make your point simple for a child, that's it's a bad thing to hurt people for being what they are. The fine distinctions can come later, when the child is able to handle them. Your way would just confuse and upset them, and turn them away. Focus BHD, focus, and let the world expand for the child when the child is ready for that expansion.

Anonymous said...

Hallo, Bad Hair Days.

Die Zoe: Nie Wieder.

Ich: Genau!

Ganz einfach, nicht?!

Zoe Brain said...

Die Zoe: Nie Wieder.

Ich: Genau!

Ganz einfach, nicht?!

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Imogen said...

Humans don't need a hell. We just make our own.