Then there's the one the Religious Right lives on:
Do you ever feel like you’ve just landed on a different planet? I do when I learn about situations like the following. Several girls at a school in Colorado are finding out just exactly what is involved in transgender rights. An older boy has been entering the girls’ restroom at Florence High School in Florence, Colorado, claiming he’s a female and then he’s apparently been harassing some of the actual, biological girls. But when the girls’ families contacted the school, did this legitimate complaint receive respectful attention from officials? Not exactly. The school is defending this aggressive boy and his rights and the privacy rights of the girls are being waved away as not that important.
This statement was made over a week after the issue was revealed as a hoax - that the "harassment" was just this girl going to school like other girls.
On their planet, the picture above is of an "aggressive older boy harassing some actual biological girls".
The differences model, which argues that males and females are vastly
different psychologically, dominates the popular media. Here, the author
advances a very different view, the gender similarities hypothesis,
which holds that males and females are similar on most, but not all,
psychological variables. Results from a review of 46 meta-analyses
support the gender similarities hypothesis. Gender differences can vary
substantially in magnitude at different ages and depend on the context
in which measurement occurs. Overinflated claims of gender differences
carry substantial costs in areas such as the workplace and
relationships.
It's a meta-meta analysis - a summary of summaries of experiments - and later work has shown rather more differences than the early metastudies would imply. About the only glaringly obvious ones visible here are those determined not by gender as such, but purely by testosterone levels.
Nonetheless, it supports two contentions that later work has shown to be well evidenced. First, that genuine innate (albeit statistical) differences exist. Second, that men and women are far more similar than different.
Historically, it's been the differences that have been overblown due to ideological belief, with no evidentiary basis. These days, it's the differences that have been minimised or even denied, again due to ideological belief, and against the evidence. Throughout, the statistical nature of the differences, that one can make no claims at all about individuals in any one area, have been completely ignored. Men and women differ from each other. Men differ from other men too, and women from other women. Both men and women as individuals can be more or less stereotypically masculine or feminine in different areas, gender is not a binary but a complex multivariant.
Conclusion
The amount of research that has been completed on the differences
between transsexual and cissexual brains is small, but suggestive. Some
areas of the brain appear to be sexually dimorphic irrespective of
genetics or hormones (e.g., BSTc), whereas others appear to be more
dependent upon sex hormones (e.g., brain volume). From the results of
these studies, one may infer that pre-transition transsexual women’s
brains are feminine in the BSTc and INAH3, partially feminine in their
white matter tracts, and masculine in total brain and hypothalamic
volume. Data in transsexual men is rarer because these studies are
conducted in the western world, where transsexual women outnumber
transsexual men (Gooren, 2006). However, studies of transsexual men
appear to imply that the reverse is true for them.
These studies have numerous limitations. First, they have yet to be
replicated. Replication is needed to ensure reliability and
generalizability of these results. Second, these studies (especially
those involving deceased brains) have small numbers of subjects,
especially for the transsexual subjects. Studies involving brains from
the Netherlands Brain Bank typically had fewer than 10 transsexual
brains to study, and the latter two (Kruijver et al, Chung et al) only
had a single transsexual male brain. Although fewer numbers of subjects
are generally more acceptable in biological research than in
psychological research, it is still a potential source of error.
Potentially the most glaring limitation in these studies is their
conflation of sexual orientation and gender identity. Berglund et al
(2008), for example, only compared heterosexual cissexual women and men
with gynephilic/homosexual transsexual women. While they could not
include androphilic/heterosexual transsexual women in their study
because of rarity, they failed to include homosexual cissexual men and
women as comparison groups. This introduces a potentially confounding
variable.
Despite these limitations, evidence so far is suggestive of a
biological influence in transsexuality. More research is needed to
confirm and expand these preliminary findings.
Some of these criticisms have been met - at least partially - since 2011. Others remain. As a summary of the state-of-the-art back then, I could only improve on it marginally.
The following organisations have endorsed the report:
British Association of Urological Surgeons
British Psychological Society
Gender Identity Research and Education Society
Gender Trust
Press for Change
Royal College of General Practitioners
Royal College of Nursing
Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health*
Royal College of Physicians
Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists
Royal College of Surgeons
UK Council for Psychotherapy
Factors that help to support successful outcomes are a consistent gender identity and psychological stability before and after surgery, adequate psychological preparation and transition at an early age (De Cuypere et al, 2006), including properly informed consent about benefits, risks and outcomes. A survey in the UK showed a high level of satisfaction (98%) following genital surgery (Schonfield, 2008). Two studies on outcomes in women and men showed that they function well on a physical, emotional, psychological and social level (Weyers et al, 2009; Wierckx et al, 2011). Overall, there are a number of studies that report extremely high transgender patient satisfaction with genital reconstructive surgery.
The next one... is bad. The report itself is very good, but looking at the events that caused it to be written... it's hard not to weep uncontrollably.
Mr Ansara explained that concern or trauma resulting from early medical experiences can have broader consequences:
What you see is that a lot of intersex people do not seek medical care even when emergency treatment is needed, because they are so afraid of further medical abuse. For myself, I had some medical treatments done to me nonconsensually that I, frankly, never talk about because it just is not safe, and there are many people who will avoid medical treatment on that basis.
Reading the raw testimony is heartbreaking. OK, I had nonconsensual surgery at age 20 - "just taking out the gallbladder" - leaving me with a livid scar from bikini line to breastbone, one that's caused shocked looks from medics since then. I don't even know what was taken out, the pathology reports on the "anomalous tissue" were... mislaid. As was the standard practice of the time. Meh. I would have consented if asked, based on what we knew then.
I did not suffer medical abuse by any reasonable definition of the term. Many, many others have. And do. This report might just put a stop to that, if the recommendations are implemented.
Let's take a moment to discern the Spirits.... Now the public schoolchildren are being told by a demonic spirit "You must open up your daughters' privacy to our perversion". And this demonic spirit inside of this boy is now violating, and for all intents and purposes, he's raping - at least visually - these teenage girls.
"Spectral evidence" is the only evidence they have, of course. Only they can see the true danger.
Everyone else in the town sees a girl using a restroom and engaging
in girltalk, as she's done for the past two years.. A girl who happens
to be Trans.
Oh yes - send money. The PJI needs it to alert the rest of the nation
to this imminent threat by demonic forces that only they can discern.
It's not only Moms in Colorado who are very, very angry. There's at least one in Canberra, Australia who is now best described as "incandescent" now we're sure of the facts.
I'll do everything I can to hasten that day. Today sounds good. And I'll be after far more of their anatomy than that.
"Reactionary" sites are doubling down. I'm not saying they're encouraging a lynching.. no, belay that, I am saying that. Too much evidence to say otherwise.
A comment at WND - longer than most, but otherwise typical to mild
Science (truth) is being
removed from America to create dumb kids/slaves of sexual desires by
sexualizing children through Marxist "Sex Ed"----through forcing Vice on
our children--forcing them to think sodomizing other is "Good" and a
"Right" when it is a vile, dysfunctional Vice. Totally insane and
removes Reason and Natural Laws/Christian Ethics (foundation of our
Constitutional Rights).
Homosexuality and sexual confusion is caused by Childhood
Trauma---and they are trying to normalize child abuse and corrupt and
warp Reason and Truth of ALL normal students. They are destroying
(erasing) Christian Ethics replacing them with Satanic/pagan religions
where sodomy is used in Rites of Worship of Ba'al. All muslim nations
prefer boys for sex and segregate/hate women. The schools hate these
normal "girls". We are trying to normalize muslim ethics because we
have them running the White House and our military and now Boy
Scouts---to normalize pagan/sodomy and force Pride in anal sex and
perversions (hate for women).
Sexualizing children corrupts normal sexual identity formation which
requires innocence in Latency. it is like sexual rape of a child---only
Sex Ed is rape of their minds/worldview which destroys all normal
perceptions of the body with evil concepts where the body is used in
dysfunctional, Vile ways. Dehumanization.
They are forcing "Sex Ed" (developed by Cultural Marxists (Lukacs))
which normalizes perversions and sexual acts in children. It corrupts
children like in the vulgar Weimar Republic.
The insane boy is being used to force "Vice is Good" on others to
destroy "normal" and "moral in our children. He is a traumatized
kid--probably sexually molested like most homosexuals and Chastity
Bono--raped as a girl. Trying to make mental illness normal is
psychosexual politics of the Leftist to destroy autonomy and civil
society---to collapse culture. Igniting sexual passions in children is
what Sex Ed is designed to do before they have the ability to use Reason
to control base instincts---which takes maturity.
Sex Ed is to flip "Good and Evil"--make muslim ethics of sodomy
normal---like all our media/books/schools are designed to do---reduce
man to rutting animals so that Billy Ayers/Al Gores and zero Marxists
can make the masses into slaves and kill off all the useless eaters
through their death panels in obamacare as they party and have their
orgies like Sugar Keynes had at Harvard.
More succinct comments, including the usual threats of violence. Mostly it's just talk, Mostly. :
Some news outlets are reporting it straight,, even if they don't always get the details right. Most aren't touching the story.
More than 950 students go to Florence High School. Like any high school, there’s no shortage of gossip.
“The whole school is talking about it,” said Florence High School senior Kayli Conway.
It being a male student who claims he’s transgender and wants to use the girls’ restroom.
“They’re kind of making it a bigger deal than it should be,” said Conway.
Conway says the gossip began at the start of the school year.
“I know that they’re trying to tell her that she can’t use the
females restroom and I think that’s kind of wrong because she’s trying
to be a girl,” she said
...
This isn’t the first time a southern Colorado school has been at odds
with a transgender student’s request to use a girl’s restroom. In a
case that gained national attention, Eagleside Elementary School in
Fountain refused to let 6-year-old Coy Mathis use the girl’s restroom.
Mathis’ parents took the issue to the Colorado Civil Rights Division,
which ruled that any effort by Eagleside staff to bar Mathis’ access to
restrooms had to be classified as discrimination.
Actually, she hasn't been denied access. That's the point, and the PJI doesn't like that. Hence the PJI made stuff up - though they've since retracted. Sorta.
“First of all, it’s our position that a teenage boy’s presence into the
bathroom for teenage girls is inherently harassing,” said Matthew
McReynolds, staff attorney at the Pacific Justice Institute, who is
representing the families of the girls involved. “It’s inherently
violative of their privacy rights. It’s also intimidating when you have a
boy like this, who is not a freshman, going in there with younger
freshman girls. They feel violated. They feel intimidated, and that’s
been expressed to us.”
The girls further allege the boy has made sexually harassing comments in that setting.
“Details continue to emerge on this in terms of what what kind of
comments may have been made. We’ve heard some reports that he’s
commented on what girls are wearing or their figure while in the
bathroom. If you can imagine that scenario from the reference and
framework of a teenage girl, I think that’s pretty harassing,” said McReynolds, who reiterated that a boy simply being in the girls’ restroom is ample harassment in itself
So now they're alleging that a Trans girl used the girls' restroom. I think that's probably true.
And while there, behaved like any other girl. Maybe even remarked on hairstyle, asked for tips on makeup, complimented others on accessorising. As has been known to happen even with "girls" in their 50's.
I'll repeat this guy's words again:
"This is exactly the
kind of horror story we have been warning would accompany the push for
radical transgender rights in schools, and it is the type of situation
that LGBT activits (sic) have been insisting would not happen.”
Um.
OK, an eccentric (to put it mildly) political group doing a "beat up", just like they did when they said that teaching that the Earth orbits the Sun was "creating a hostile environment for those of faith".
But then it gets nasty.
From Transadvocate (a site I sometimes contribute to - I'm not an "objective third party" here)
Both PJI and Brennan seem content to pretend that this is about
something other than the life of a transgender child. ADULTS have made
reprehensible claims about this kid – directly inciting violent intent –
without evidence to back it up. After their smear campaign lead to public calls to hunt, beat and kill the trans youth, Brennan released the kid’s name.
Brennan became somewhat infamous after she outed a trans teen to his parents and school, attempted to intervene in the medical care of a transgender person she didn’t like and attempted to have the United Nations strip protections from the global trans community.
Radical Feminist Lesbian Lawyer Cathy Brennan is now acting as a member of the "Pacific Justice Institute's Ladies' Auxiliary", hosting fund-raising letters for them, and now even conveying this Trans girl's personal details to those who want to kill her.
And of course making personal attacks - including giving false information to their employers - on those she opposes. Like Cristan. Like me. Like pretty much every person, Trans, Intersex, Ally of fellow Feminist she finds herself in disagreement with. This goes well beyond Internet trolling, well beyond even the dirtiest politics. It goes into dangerous sociopathy and physical violence.
This time, and not for the first time, her victim-du-jour is a teenage girl.
Here's the story - a hoax, a malicious libel, deliberately designed to persecute one particular child.
A male student at Florence High School who claims to be a transgender has been harrassing girls in the bathroom......
No interviews. No sources, other than the Pacific Justice Institute. The same group that has lodged formal objections to teaching in science class that the Earth orbits the Sun as that contradicts Scripture, thereby "creating a hostile environment for those of faith".
create
a hostile learning environment for those of faith. - See more at:
http://www.pacificjustice.org/1/post/2013/09/atheistic-elementary-school-instruction-challenged.html#sthash.Wz1xhNEL.dpuf
"Drumming
Up Business" - when ambulance-chasing lawyers can't find crash victims,
what are they to do? Maybe a little insurance fraud, "manufacturing"
fake accidents.
Curtsey and thanks to Christan Williams - who did the fact checking that neither the Christian Broadcasting Network, the Daily Mail, nor Fox News bothered with.
You'll search in vain for specifics though. Who supposedly is making the complaint. What the "harassment" consisted of. It's just a claim that a trans child attending school constitutes an invasion of privacy, and a violation of freedom of speech. Like teaching that the Earth orbits the Sun.
The PJL's letterhead states the chairman of their advisory board is one Edwin Meese Esq. - a name readers might be familiar with.
I am a girl at the school and a friend of the girl in question. I have to say that she is awesome!
There are a few problems that the principal isn't mentioning. I think they always like to cover things up?
She has been both physically and verbally threatened by some of the
boys. They can be pretty scary. And the girls can say some hateful
things. But it's much less than half.
More than anything she just wishes everyone would quit talking about her.
UPDATE:
The Daily Mail story has now been consigned to the bit bucket. Story, what story?
CharismaNews on the other hand is busy scrubbing all links to evidence that the story is bogus, in response to this request:
Moderator,
remove these links to this trash propaganda, there's no sense in having
a Christian magazine giving free advertising to junk science and
advocacy for perversion. These people have no sense of shame at all.
2:13 p.m., Tuesday Oct. 15
Partial transcript of testimony by the school superintendent:
"VENDETTI: "Nothing has actually been verified with us. This is one
parent basically bringing their viewpoint about this situation to the
media because they weren't getting the responses that they hoped they
would get from the district, from parents of students at the high
school, or from the board and myself. So I think it's just an attempt to
elevate the situation to a point where maybe some more attention can be
drawn to that in the hope of having a different outcome. But to our
knowledge and based on our investigation, none of those things have
actually happened. We do have a transgender student at the high school
and she has been using the women's restroom. There has not been a
situation."
UPDATE - a comment by the Examiner article's author, posted on the CBN website:
Having the proper
"Christian" attitude needs to be revisited by CBN and all of those
claiming to be a child of God. Even "Saul" thought he was doing God's
work when he persecuted Christians, had them arrested, thrown into
prison, and even approved of the killing of
Christians.
Does CBN want to have the same reputation
as Westboro Baptist Church? Unfortunately too much Pharisee has been the
make-up of many Christians concerning subjects as homosexuality and
transgenders. This story picked up by CBN was a disservice to the cause
of Christ, a slam against transgenders in general, and a grossly
exaggerated innuendo that impacted a transgender teen at Florence High
School in Colorado.
I am the Christian perspectives
writer for San Jose that picked up the story from CBN whom I was over
confident that the story was true, because after all, it was CBN. I set
aside fact checking because I put too much emphasis that CBN would have
credibility. I was dead wrong, and so was CBN. I posted a retraction
but the damage was already done as the story has taken on a life of its
own and according to one commentator that took me to task in the
comments section, international.
CBN needs to print a
retraction of its transgender story. It is not worth it to continue
legitimacy to a lie that could do harm to an innocent teen whose only
guilt is being born. Both CBN and myself were deceived and the next
task is to confess, ask for forgiveness, and seek redemption as 1 John
1:9 declares. God hates it when false testimony is given and according
to Proverbs 6:16-18 we better clean up our acts.
Florence-Penrose School District Superintendent Rhonda Vendetti said
the district was advised by lawyers not to comment about the specifics
of the case because it is under investigation by law enforcement.
However, she did release a comment Tuesday to the Daily Record.
"We are committed to providing a fair and equal education to all students at Florence High School," she said.
In view of one student's claim that the trans student has been a victim of cyberstalking -
"As a Christian girl who attends FHS, I'd just
like to say that I've never been harassed by this individual not have I
ever seen him harass anyone else. He's actually shy and a nice person.
Do I think he should be able to use the
girls bathroom? I'm torn. He either uses our bathroom and makes MAYBE
30% of the girls uncomfortable, or he uses the boy's restroom and gets
beat up. I don't feel uncomfortable by him. Also, there are a lot of
holes in this story. No parents initially complained. There was a mass
Facebook message that included 150+ students and parents, outing him
publicly. It was such a big deal, all electronic devises were
confiscated if seen that day. THEN it was a problem and parents
complained. This boy wasn't treated fairly. As a Christian, I had to put
the truth out there. He didn't hurt or harass anyone."
And another student's claim of the trans girl being a victim of physical violence -
I am a girl at the school and a friend of the girl in question. I have to say that she is awesome!
There are a few problems that the principal isn't mentioning. I think they always like to cover things up? She has been both physically and verbally threatened by some of the
boys. They can be pretty scary. And the girls can say some hateful
things. But it's much less than half.
More than anything she just wishes everyone would quit talking about her.
Today, PJI issued a statement to the TransAdvocate via their apparent mouthpiece, a TERF
activist. While the statement still offered no evidence to support the
claim that this trans kid is a predator, they finally revealed the
nature of the supposed “harassment” endured by the cisgender school
kids.
In a statement delivered to the TransAdvocate by attorney Cathy Brennan, the PJI claims that a trans person in the restroom is “inherently intimidating and harassing.” Brennan, vocal critic of trans equality measures, became somewhat infamous after she outed a trans teen to his parents and school, and recently attempted to intervene in the medical care of a transgender person.
After days of sidestepping any explicit statements about the exact
nature of the supposed “harassment,” PJI now asserts that the mere presence of a trans person constitutes harassment and intimidation to cisgender people.
UPDATE:
The PJI has now admitted in a press release that the only "harassment" was the Trans girl using the girls restroom.
They have said in the past that they are trying to corroborate
unspecified rumours of actual harassment. The latest press release
suggests they've now dropped that and are hurriedly backing down from
it. An independent investigation by the police into the truth of those
allegations is now underway, something they apparently didn't want.
Contrast this with their original claim
that not only did she use the restroom, but engaged in unspecified
sexual harassment rather than just using it:
"This is exactly the
kind of horror story we have been warning would accompany the push for
radical transgender rights in schools, and it is the type of situation
that LGBT activits (sic) have been insisting would not happen.”
UPDATE : KOAA 5 Colorado Springs has a report dated 2 weeks ago (Oct 3):
UPDATE
After due consideration, playing my own "Devil's Advocate" here:
There's still much we don't know.
Is the student Transsexual (as I've assumed) or Transgender/Gender Fluid? Or even Intersex?
What age are they? They've been going to the school for some years, so over 12, but that's about all we do know.
Have they been transitioning under the standards of care (again, an assumption on my part that could be wrong)?
The police are involved now - investigating the allegations about what this student has done, or investigating the threats alleged to have been made against them as well? What about the alleged FB message blast?
We have comments on websites, allegedly from other students. But are they genuine?
Yes, we've shown the PJL's letters "gilded the lilly" at the very least, or were a pack of lies at most - but I know I should be careful not to substitute my own assumptions as fact too. Otherwise how do I differ from the PJL?
Important points:
1. Differences are both biological and social (I'd put it as 20% biological, 80% socially constructed myself - but you can't ignore that 20%. It's real.)
2. Differences are statistical. It makes just as little sense to say "we can't employ a woman to do X because women aren't good at it" as to refuse to employ a woman who's 6' 4" tall because "women are too short". Even though most women are shorter than most men.
3. Saying all this is unpopular. Those who are biological essentialists deny the overwhelming effect of socialisation; those who are fanatic feminists deny the small but real statistical biological differences. Both dogmatic and extreme positions are ideological, not fact-based, and both groups will metaphorically or in the case of some of the more extreme religious groups, literally burn you at the stake for saying so. Your words will be twisted and position misrepresented by both parties.
4. Historically, it's the biological essentialist position that has been used to oppress women worldwide, and still is in many places today. So it's the greater evil. But there's a seed of truth in there that shouldn't be ignored, just because it's been grossly exaggerated, small differences magnified, and applied universally rather than statistically.
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5. However.. it's the fanatic feminist position that has in recent times - the past 40 years - been used as an excuse to persecute and denigrate Trans and Intersex women, and to a lesser extent men. That's not happening in the uncivilised and illiterate NW Frontier, but on the pages of the Observer and Grauniad. People have died as the result. It should cease.
...
Please don't try to force individuals into stereotyped boxes, just because they happen to belong to a certain group with genuine but statistical biologically-based personality traits. Some will fit, others not, and you should neither critique them for "conforming to an oppressive gender binary" on one hand, nor "going against God's Natural Law" on the other.
Objective To assess the prognosis of individuals with gender identity disorder (GID) receiving hormonal therapy as a part of sex reassignment in terms of quality of life and other self-reported psychosocial outcomes.
Methods We searched electronic databases, bibliography of included studies and expert files. All study designs were included with no language restrictions. Reviewers working independently and in pairs selected studies using predetermined inclusion and exclusion criteria, extracted outcome and quality data. We used a random-effects meta-analysis to pool proportions and estimate the 95% confidence intervals (CIs). We estimated the proportion of between-study heterogeneity not attributable to chance using the I2 statistic.
Results We identified 28 eligible studies. These studies enrolled 1833 participants with GID (1093 male-to-female, 801 female-to-male) who underwent sex reassignment that included hormonal therapies. All the studies were observational and most lacked controls. Pooling across studies shows that after sex reassignment, 80% of individuals with GID reported significant improvement in gender dysphoria (95% CI = 68–89%; 8 studies; I2 = 82%); 78% reported significant improvement in psychological symptoms (95% CI = 56–94%; 7 studies; I2 = 86%); 80% reported significant improvement in quality of life (95% CI = 72–88%; 16 studies; I2 = 78%); and 72% reported significant improvement in sexual function (95% CI = 60–81%; 15 studies; I2 = 78%).
Conclusions Very low quality evidence suggests that sex reassignment that includes hormonal interventions in individuals with GID likely improves gender dysphoria, psychological functioning and comorbidities, sexual function and overall quality of life.
Individuals with gender identity disorder (GID), who are commonly referred to as transsexuals (TXs), are afflicted by negative psychosocial stressors. Central to the psychological complex of TXs is the conviction of belonging to the opposite sex. Neuroanatomical and functional brain imaging studies have demonstrated that the GID is associated with brain alterations. In this study, we found that TXs identify, when viewing male-female couples in erotic or non-erotic (“neutral”) interactions, with the couple member of the desired gender in both situations. By means of functional magnetic resonance imaging, we found that the TXs, as opposed to controls (CONs), displayed an increased functional connectivity between the ventral tegmental area, which is associated with dimorphic genital representation, and anterior cingulate cortex subregions, which play a key role in social exclusion, conflict monitoring and punishment adjustment. The neural connectivity pattern suggests a brain signature of the psychosocial distress for the gender-sex incongruity of TXs.
Actually, I am a Rocket Scientist.
Also hormonally odd (my blood has 46xy chromosomes anyway) and for most of my life, I looked male, and lived as one, trying to be the best Man a Gal could be. Anyway, in May 2005 that started changing naturally for reasons still unclear, and I'm now Zoe, not Alan : happier and more relaxed not to have to pretend any more.
UPDATE - reason now identified as the 3BHSD form of CAH.
This blog, written by a rocket scientist, is a fascinating collection of information, both personal and scientific, regarding intersex, transsexualism and related psychosocial and psychosexual issues. ... It is erudite and heartfelt. Just read the posts about the passport issue. You won't know whether to laugh, weep or crawl into a ball and rock gently in a corner - an amazing person. - David --- The reason I so appreciate bright, perceptive people - as opposed to ideologues whose intelligence does little to illuminate - is that they manage to both instruct and learn with a certain grace. Among such rarities in the transblogosphere is Zoe, whose direct speech and clear humanity always make her worth reading, even if one doesn’t always agree with her every conclusion. - Val --- The following is a request for permission to archive your A.E.Brain blog site which we have wanted to do for several years... The Library has traditionally collected items in print, but it is also committed to preserving electronic publications of lasting cultural value.... Since (1996) we have been identifying online publications and archiving those that we consider have national significance.... We would like to include A.E.Brain blog site in the PANDORA Archive... -Australian National Library
